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Rumour mill re:SimHq's recent moves
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Rumour mill re:SimHq's recent moves
Howdy all,I was wondering what you thought of simhq's recent moves regarding copyrights and image posting,also curious as to your thoughts about the long term effect it will have on the EAW forum at simhq..not wishing any form of flame war regarding these things,just terribly curious to find out what if any effect it will have in regards to our community...Cheers! S!.....Shreck
To clairify,I havent heard any rumors yet,but I'm listening
To clairify,I havent heard any rumors yet,but I'm listening
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As to the flame-proofing, I agree with that entirely. But as to the image restrictions, though I understand why it has happened, I think it will be a real hindrance to our projects if - as now seems certain - we cannot put up profiles and other pictures. I can see the SimHQ forum being a much less interesting and fun place to be, and I see people drifting away. I don't know if Frugals has a similar policy change in mind, but it is always an alternative, as indeed is this humble place were it ever needed. I wonder if the kind of closed forums for project development such as we have here might be a way round the copyright objections. I feel a certain sadness really, because it may be that the EAW forum we knew and loved, and spent far too much time at, has now gone the way of all things.
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Changes, changes
Only a year coming up into EAW forums (and connections to Moggy) myself. Already, I sense the shift in the wind. Well, change is inevitable.
Like so many EAW lovers, I and others want to add our bit and "help" this sim for our own satisfaction.
Psychologically, SimHQ seems tied to the making and using of mods.
Nothing wrong with this. Without a more sweeping vision, though, EAW will slowly fade to obscurity. The sim-playing public is always looking for new excitement, new views (and much more detailed and active graphics).
At the heart of every great book, great company, great religion, and more to the point, a great sim, is an idea. Such an idea catches hold of the imagination and survives being outdated in looks and manners.
Exactly what this idea was in EAW I can't quite express yet. But I know it's there. You can feel it in every surprise, every bit of attention to detail and immersion in action. But I will sum up one key goal.
It seems SimHQ still has many highly-skilled contributors dedicated to parts of this central goal, working to improve this or do that. What the original company had was an overall direction that brought such creative minds into a focus. And that focus was to produce an easy-to-play flight sim offering a look at what it meant to fly and fight in WWII.
Other sims like IL-2 have taken up this focussed challenge. We have not.
Like so many EAW lovers, I and others want to add our bit and "help" this sim for our own satisfaction.
Psychologically, SimHQ seems tied to the making and using of mods.
Nothing wrong with this. Without a more sweeping vision, though, EAW will slowly fade to obscurity. The sim-playing public is always looking for new excitement, new views (and much more detailed and active graphics).
At the heart of every great book, great company, great religion, and more to the point, a great sim, is an idea. Such an idea catches hold of the imagination and survives being outdated in looks and manners.
Exactly what this idea was in EAW I can't quite express yet. But I know it's there. You can feel it in every surprise, every bit of attention to detail and immersion in action. But I will sum up one key goal.
It seems SimHQ still has many highly-skilled contributors dedicated to parts of this central goal, working to improve this or do that. What the original company had was an overall direction that brought such creative minds into a focus. And that focus was to produce an easy-to-play flight sim offering a look at what it meant to fly and fight in WWII.
Other sims like IL-2 have taken up this focussed challenge. We have not.
hi all!!! was surfing here to see if i missed any news and haven't...hate to say this now but posting DL pics looks like the last thing our eaw has to worry about it...is it just me??? but i feel like the eaw forum is in its final wanning days...
meaning the forum interest at eaw with most provocative threads are practically nil now...i can remember when some new idea was brought forth it would overflow into pages of interest...korea again has resurfaced or has it
. I no longer see that while using the forum as a barometer to persue a project or sub-patching to an existing project or not (hence the snapaddon ideas, which i got no feedback at all from the Hs129/TB3 addon as an ideal example)...lately such apathy has pointed me to another sim with much more potential or a more likely alternative now, feels like Thirdwires counter response to the IL2 series in regards to being open-ended especially since theres a fleet of props being developed over at the other forum.
ITM i've been investigating a Bay-of-Pigs theme with eaw which is doeable from a single mission point of view...have camoplates, cubanmusic, even some revolutionary videos that would make nice smacker intros, etc. Don't know how far this will go either but trying a slide-show to spice up some kind of interest
while obviously posting copped photos...see if the adminstrators has an stipulation on that work-a-round 
meaning the forum interest at eaw with most provocative threads are practically nil now...i can remember when some new idea was brought forth it would overflow into pages of interest...korea again has resurfaced or has it
. I no longer see that while using the forum as a barometer to persue a project or sub-patching to an existing project or not (hence the snapaddon ideas, which i got no feedback at all from the Hs129/TB3 addon as an ideal example)...lately such apathy has pointed me to another sim with much more potential or a more likely alternative now, feels like Thirdwires counter response to the IL2 series in regards to being open-ended especially since theres a fleet of props being developed over at the other forum.
ITM i've been investigating a Bay-of-Pigs theme with eaw which is doeable from a single mission point of view...have camoplates, cubanmusic, even some revolutionary videos that would make nice smacker intros, etc. Don't know how far this will go either but trying a slide-show to spice up some kind of interest
while obviously posting copped photos...see if the adminstrators has an stipulation on that work-a-round -
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The odd thing is is that there are many projects in the works, all taking longer than expected: Finland, Spain, the various middle eastern ones Iraq, Syria, Palestine. Probably hit a spot later this year when they all turn up at once!
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Wudpecker
I agree with you, FlyRight, though I may say there are reasons for low response that might not mean impending death of EAW.
It's winter (northern hemisphere), folks are cuddling to warmth, thoughts turn slushy or go elsewhere and we can expect a slack period now and then.
As Moggy pointed out, lots of projects are crawling along.
We do need a hot spark flying onto the rug to get us out of our easy chairs of boredom. When enthusiasm hits, things get done in a hurry.
This fading level of interest does concern me (and Skylark, too). Just what the spark can be is something that can't be said until (and IF) it happens.
It's winter (northern hemisphere), folks are cuddling to warmth, thoughts turn slushy or go elsewhere and we can expect a slack period now and then.
As Moggy pointed out, lots of projects are crawling along.
We do need a hot spark flying onto the rug to get us out of our easy chairs of boredom. When enthusiasm hits, things get done in a hurry.
This fading level of interest does concern me (and Skylark, too). Just what the spark can be is something that can't be said until (and IF) it happens.
hi Moggy, setting aside those setups and one i'm still keeping on my HD...its the enthusiasm that i'm not reading too much. Right now a good flaming thread would be more interesting...ah! remember those epic Johnson-vs-Mosi like battles, what a blast unfortunately at their expense (i know! i have a warped sense of humor)...
or wheres the "name the caption" threads or politically correct Off-Topics that use to be good for a laugh. As well as the insightful Danchos that have now moved on or were disappointed by the forums imput, i can name a few key personalities i had communication with that left mainly because of apathy and that was before 2 years ago...
maybe the gene pool is slowly thinning out around here too, strapping those in-the-know with too much on their own plate, so now this compounds even less of a creative response...anyway, i'm only pointing out just part of another recipe (to Shrecks initial post and adding to Wud) for this sims fall from grace regardless of new administrational guidelines...because theres always a way to bend the-mans rules
or wheres the "name the caption" threads or politically correct Off-Topics that use to be good for a laugh. As well as the insightful Danchos that have now moved on or were disappointed by the forums imput, i can name a few key personalities i had communication with that left mainly because of apathy and that was before 2 years ago...
maybe the gene pool is slowly thinning out around here too, strapping those in-the-know with too much on their own plate, so now this compounds even less of a creative response...anyway, i'm only pointing out just part of another recipe (to Shrecks initial post and adding to Wud) for this sims fall from grace regardless of new administrational guidelines...because theres always a way to bend the-mans rules
Yeah,there is a bit of a change in the wind.I have also sensed it.I just try to view it as an "ebb and flow" kind of thing.However,I frequent other forums too,and the main focus is on FPS and non-combat sims,probably some kind of subliminal response to a world thats waring...also I believe that when the newest whizbang/ubersim release has run its course,many vets will return,and newbies will always trickle in,and I am guessing the eternally delayed SAW will create a major ripple in the flight-sim community too.
in the meantime,I will just keep plugging away at EAW,doesnt matter what else I have on the HD,I always come back to EAW
S!....Shreck
in the meantime,I will just keep plugging away at EAW,doesnt matter what else I have on the HD,I always come back to EAW
S!....Shreck
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Wudpecker
Right now a good flaming thread would be more interesting...ah! remember those epic Johnson-vs-Mosi like battles, what a blast
I guess you missed the tiff going on with Col JLanders and I. He was hot to help with offering Ready-To-Go campagns until he got a dose of adware signing up for Gmail (I've never had a problem on AOL).
His public screams of "I'm shot! Get me outta heeerrrrrreee!" killed the whole idea.
You should have read his private threats!
I guess you missed the tiff going on with Col JLanders and I. He was hot to help with offering Ready-To-Go campagns until he got a dose of adware signing up for Gmail (I've never had a problem on AOL).
His public screams of "I'm shot! Get me outta heeerrrrrreee!" killed the whole idea.
You should have read his private threats!
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Right now a good flaming thread would be more interesting
Probably not allowable now on the SimHQ board.
I wonder if EAW will in future gather round do-it-yourself places like Sandbagger's and VB's launchpad, or here, and not around the big gaming sites
The overall level of interest is difficult to quantify. I've said this before, but I am still shifting 15-20 copies of the Dunkirk 65MB setup file per month, and that's been steady for almost a year now.
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steady hits are good thing but its the continued creativity that i'm leary of...except we do know SAW will eventually be released someday, looking forward to that one...
wondering what we're going to see with that too, wouldn't be a bad idea for that team to include a tutorial on the do's and don't of new world campaign making with it, if anyone can see the reasoning with that???
wondering what we're going to see with that too, wouldn't be a bad idea for that team to include a tutorial on the do's and don't of new world campaign making with it, if anyone can see the reasoning with that???
steady hits are good thing but its the continued creativity that i'm leary of
what in the hell does that mean?I like to think I am blazing a trail into left field for EAW,I have jets and choppers out the wazoo awaiting 3dz tweaks.FM's,etc. but for the most part,our community doesnt give a $h!t,more concerned with an exact reproduction of a skin thats been done a dozen times previously....which I just dont understand.I have fought the feeling that I'm "barking up the wrong tree"for months now.I have finally come to the conclusion"screw it,I'm doing this for me,because NO ONE cares other than me"
and another thing,we have all of this technical genius here,yet the amount of interplay between the modmakers is DEPRESSINGLY low,point in case,I have been working with map and terrain editing for a couple of months now,Korea,and Vietnam,being #1and #2 on my to-do list,and the amount of EAW "world making knowledge" that is "out there" on the 'net is well,very,very small....and somewhat obtuse as well,in addition the tools we have for the job are ranking right up there with 3dz studio...maddeningly short on all important feaures,CTD prone,and basically NO good knowledge in the accompanying read-me's
I will keep beating on the projects that I have chosen,until such a time that they are at least in a beta-stage...then,who knows!
what I do know is this community as a whole is going through a "low-ebb" period,I have had to shift my frame of mind from caring about it,to saying "damn it" and just continuing what I've started,even if there is no one to DL it,or appreciate it,whenever I am completed with it.
And to those who want some flame added to simhq,hah!,its all I could do to keep my mouth shut and NOT light into a certain "guru" of ours in regards to an FM statement recently......egotistical,and typical of the mind set of some of our older "statesmen"....who was it who wrote"fine and just go keep all your toys to yourself"?theres some truth to that in our community...and at times it really,REALLY,PISSES ME OFF!!!
I dont know what else I can add,I am no newbie,I have earned my seat at the table,and yet I cant say its as cool as it used to be to have a seat at this table....why?
maybe because of the arrogance exhibited by those whom should know better,maybe its because some of the more 'friendly gurus" have retired....I dont know,but I have a fear the future will go something like this...mod A completed,but Sandbagger is no longer hosting new things,load it up to RIPWAY and link to a few forums,and sit back and watch the DL count go into the double digits....thats right double digits
...EAW may be dying,and I feel I can do nothing to stop that,I will coninue posting and modding until I have been booted from all of the forums,or the time comes when no-one cares anymore....then I will keep all my toys to myself......and what a shame that will be 
Shreck
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Hello Scheckie,
Sometimes it can be frustrating when you're making things and other people don't seem all that interested. I suppose the answer is that you hang on to the fact that it interests you.
I can well remember emailing Captain Kurt when I was doing Dunkirk, wondering if anyone would really be that interested.
I think what we've had recently is a lot of technical and individual mods, and no great all-in-the-box packages. A lot are being worked on, and probably having to be reworked because of the advancements so it's taking time.
I take what you say about the world editing tools. I haven't used the new utilities much myself, though I think potetially they are rather wonderful. I have done and to an extent still do my mods by hex editing. Certainly created the middle east world that way. I understand that there is not much in the way of instructional guides, but there wasn't when I did it, and I learned by doing. I wrote up the results of that learning experience in my web pages.
All things go round in circles, and perhaps we're having a bit of a low at the moment. But I'm convinced good things are on the way.
Sometimes it can be frustrating when you're making things and other people don't seem all that interested. I suppose the answer is that you hang on to the fact that it interests you.
I can well remember emailing Captain Kurt when I was doing Dunkirk, wondering if anyone would really be that interested.
I think what we've had recently is a lot of technical and individual mods, and no great all-in-the-box packages. A lot are being worked on, and probably having to be reworked because of the advancements so it's taking time.
I take what you say about the world editing tools. I haven't used the new utilities much myself, though I think potetially they are rather wonderful. I have done and to an extent still do my mods by hex editing. Certainly created the middle east world that way. I understand that there is not much in the way of instructional guides, but there wasn't when I did it, and I learned by doing. I wrote up the results of that learning experience in my web pages.
All things go round in circles, and perhaps we're having a bit of a low at the moment. But I'm convinced good things are on the way.
Moggy
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